Learn how ecoSPIRITS reduces waste and carbon emissions in the beverage industry with innovative, sustainable packaging technology.
About this episode
00:06
Hello, you're watching another episode of Green New Perspective, a podcast dedicated to sustainability. My name is Dunya. I will be your host today, and joining me is Iain McPherson, the Sales Director for Europe, Middle East, and Africa at ecoSPIRITS.
ecoSPIRITS is the proud pioneer of the world’s first low-carbon, low-waste spirit distribution technology. This innovative closed-loop system is transforming the way premium spirits are distributed, nearly eliminating packaging waste in the supply chain.
But ecoSPIRITS is not just about reducing waste. They are leading the charge in redefining how we approach spirit distribution, making it more efficient, cost-effective, and eco-conscious. By revolutionizing the supply chain, Iain and his team are paving the way for a new era of sustainable spirits.
So let’s explore their passion for sustainability within the spirits industry and the transformative impact they’re making.
00:59
Q: So Iain, hi. Welcome to the Green New Perspective podcast.
Thank you, Dunya. It is a real pleasure and joy to be here and to be speaking with you. Thank you very much for inviting me.
02:18
Q: For starters, can you give our listeners an overview of the challenges in the premium spirits supply chain and the environmental impacts associated with it?
Yes. Back in 2020, it was reported that there were 689 billion units of single-use glass packaging produced. About 70 billion of those came from wine and spirits bottles.
Many countries have poor recycling rates, so a lot of this glass ends up in landfills. Recycling itself is also highly energy-intensive. Glass is heavy and expensive to transport, so reuse is by far the most effective way to reduce environmental impact.
At ecoSPIRITS, we believe the best way to manage the problem of waste is to produce less waste in the first place. That’s why we're focused on reuse and the circular economy.
03:03
Q: This is the perfect moment to tell us more about ecoSPIRITS’ mission and how you're addressing those challenges.
From the start, our mission has been to end single-use glass. By leading the wine and spirits industry into a circular packaging model, we’re rethinking the entire distribution system.
We’re an innovative technology business founded in 2018 in Singapore with the goal of developing the world’s first closed-loop packaging system for premium spirits and wine.
Our founder and CEO, Paul Gabie, came from a background in spirits distribution and saw the inefficiencies of single-use glass, especially when shipping bottles globally. That’s both complex and wasteful.
We tested the model first with Raffles Hotel in Singapore. Their support helped us scale quickly across Singapore, then to Hong Kong, Australia, and China. By 2019, we began our global rollout. By the end of this year, we’ll be active in at least 25 markets worldwide.
05:03
Q: Can you explain the concept of the closed-loop distribution system that you developed?
Absolutely. Our system allows wine and spirits to be shipped in bulk from the production country to local markets. Once there, the liquid is transferred into our fully reusable glass ecoTotes and delivered to venues.
At the venue, products are dispensed using our SmartPour technology. When the ecoTotes are empty, they’re returned, sanitized, refilled, and re-sealed at our ecoPLANTs.
Beyond hardware, we're rolling out CircularONE, our blockchain-based software platform that integrates the network into a secure IoT system. This combination of hardware and software makes our solution scalable, efficient, and highly secure.
06:19
Q: How has the industry responded to this approach?
The response has been incredible. We’re now working with nearly 2,000 bars, restaurants, and hotels globally, and we expect to double that within the next year.
Over 100 spirit brands currently use our technology through our Climate Partner Program, which includes brands, distributors, and venues. We also have over 400 more on a waiting list.
We've launched services in California, Florida, and Canada, and recently expanded into Denmark. By the end of the year, we expect to be in over 25 countries.
We’re also proud to work with global leaders like Pernod Ricard, Diageo, and Rémy Cointreau who are integrating our technology into their operations.
08:13
Q: Can you share some specific strategies and practices you’ve implemented to reduce carbon emissions and waste?
Certainly. Our model moves liquid in bulk and processes it locally in 4.5-liter ecoTotes. This eliminates the need for single-use glass bottles, cardboard boxes, and related waste.
It creates significant cost advantages and dramatically reduces carbon footprints. Our venues enjoy up to a 50% reduction in storage needs and generate 95% less glass and cardboard waste.
The ecoTotes are uplifted, sanitized, and reused, so waste is virtually eliminated. Overall, we can reduce the carbon footprint of spirits and wine distribution by 60 to 90%.
09:51
Q: Every brand has a story. What was the vision behind ecoSPIRITS’ identity when it was first created?
You're right, I wasn’t part of ecoSPIRITS at the very beginning, but it’s a compelling story. It was born out of a business need.
In 2017, Paul and the founding team were running Proof & Company, a leading craft spirits distributor in Asia. They saw the volume of single-use glass moving through the supply chain and started to question if circular alternatives were possible.
There weren’t any scalable solutions at the time, so they began building one. As more industry players showed interest in a better way, the vision evolved into what we have today.
11:11
Q: What were the biggest challenges you faced, especially with the software component?
Sustainability is widely accepted as essential across the industry. But transitioning to a circular economy requires behavior changes at every step in the supply chain, from production to consumption.
We’ve worked hard to make this transition seamless and to support partners who can lead the way. Our early adopters have definitely seen the benefits and helped pave the path for others.
12:20
Q: How do you see ecoSPIRITS positioned within the broader clean tech and sustainability movement?
We’re incredibly lucky to have partners who share our vision, whether it’s global hospitality groups, leading drinks companies, or premium spirits producers. Many of them are smaller-scale brands, so the cost savings from reusing glass are especially valuable.
We’re also seeing consumer demand drive change. Guests appreciate cocktails made from sustainable ingredients and love seeing their choices make a positive impact. That demand pushes the industry toward more sustainable solutions.
14:00
Q: For those who aren’t yet aware of your product’s benefits, how do you communicate ecoSPIRITS’ value?
As a circular technology company, we’re challenging long-held assumptions about packaging. We help our partners, brands and venues, communicate the benefits to their customers.
For example, some venues create planet-friendly cocktails that use only spirits delivered in ecoTotes. They promote these drinks in their menus and cocktail lists.
We’re also collaborating with partners like Avallen and London Essence to create what may be the world’s most sustainable cocktail. We call it the “Sustainable Spritz,” and many of its ingredients are upcycled or rescued from other parts of the process.
15:52
Q: I heard you also have reforestation and ocean protection programs?
Yes. Through our forest and ocean programs, we partner with organizations like Green Steps to geotag and track trees planted with every ecoTote cycle.
Each time an ecoTote is filled, sent out, and returned, a tree is planted. Venues receive a custom URL to view their forest, complete with photos, species data, impact reports, and even the planter’s name.
This turns an invisible process into something consumers can see and feel proud to support.
18:30
Q: What advice would you give to other beverage companies considering more sustainable operations?
The future is circular. The problem isn’t glass itself, it’s the single-use model. While glass has a “clean” reputation, studies like those from Zero Waste Europe show it can be more harmful than other single-use options.
Recycling is better than landfill, but still very energy-intensive. Reuse keeps the material’s value intact and requires far less energy.
We need more education around this. In many small island nations we operate in, recycling isn’t even an option, so reuse becomes the only sustainable solution.
19:30
Q: Can you share how you identify partners and generate leads that align with your sustainability goals?
We work with licensed operators in each country. These partners often come from hospitality, distribution, or production backgrounds, and they already have the local market knowledge to drive adoption.
They are aligned with our mission and have the experience to scale our circular solution effectively.
22:00
Q: Looking ahead, what excites you most about ecoSPIRITS’ future?
Honestly, the global interest has been amazing. We’ve launched primarily with spirits, but we’re now piloting a circular wine solution in Australia. That’s incredibly exciting because wine is a major contributor to single-use glass waste.
We’re also exploring off-premise solutions, such as supermarket and retail applications, which will give consumers more direct interaction with our tech.
22:27
Q: Final question: How can individuals and businesses support your mission and join the movement?
For businesses, I’d say consider your future supply chain. Is it sustainable? Are you prepared for the growing demand for reuse?
For individuals, choose sustainable options when you’re out, look for bars and restaurants using ecoSPIRITS. We’ve launched in the UK with ecoTote versions of premium spirits, so you can now enjoy a sustainable margarita or espresso martini.
Every purchase counts. It supports sustainable practices and sends a message that consumers care.
33:47
Well, Iain, thank you. This is the end of our conversation. I’d love to toast you with a sustainable margarita right now!
Q: Before we wrap up, can you tell our audience how they can connect with you and learn more about ecoSPIRITS?
Of course. You can find us on Instagram at @ecospirits.global for a visual look at our technology and venues. We’re also active on LinkedIn and Facebook, and our website is ecospirits.global.
35:13
Thank you once again. This was wonderful.
Thank you, Dunya. Thank you for your time.
35:22
That concludes today's episode of Green New Perspective. We hope you enjoyed the conversation with Iain McPherson, Sales Director for Europe, Middle East, and Africa at ecoSPIRITS.
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