Seven Seas Water Group's CEO on building, financing and running decentralized water treatment for municipalities and industry, plus desalination and reuse.
About this episode
00:00
Dunya Jovanovic:
Hello Henry, and welcome to the Green New Perspective podcast.
Henry J. Charrabé:
Good morning. How are you?
Dunya Jovanovic:
I'm good. I hope you are too. And I hope our audience is ready for a nice chat about what you do and what Seven Seas Water Group does.
Q: Can you tell us a bit more about your background and what led you to Seven Seas Water Group?
Henry J. Charrabé:
Sure. I started with Seven Seas Water Group in September 2021. I’ve been in the water and wastewater space for about two decades. Before this, I was the CEO and Managing Director of Fluence, a public company listed on the Australian Stock Exchange. That came out of a company where I was the founding CEO, RW Water. It was solely funded by Ronald Lauder.
We eventually merged with an Israeli-based wastewater tech company called MFC and became Fluence. I kind of fell into this industry. I worked for Mr. Lauder for many years, and one day he decided to invest in water. He saw it as the oil of the 21st century, and also the key to peace in the Middle East. I was fortunate to be part of a team that built a global water treatment tech company, always focused on the decentralized space.
01:40
Q: What does Seven Seas Water Group actually do for those unfamiliar?
Henry J. Charrabé:
We focus on what I believe is the holy grail of water and wastewater treatment: water-as-a-service. We own the trademark for this model. All our assets are owned and operated by us. Customers don’t make huge upfront capital investments, they pay over time, much like a mortgage.
Everything is under one umbrella. We finance, design, build, own, operate, and maintain the plants. We're leaders in this space, managing over 230 water and wastewater assets.
02:36
Q: How does your decentralized water system address water scarcity?
Henry J. Charrabé:
Decentralized systems inherently address scarcity by bringing solutions to areas that centralized systems overlook. Traditional infrastructure is highly energy inefficient and often impractical for smaller communities. Our decentralized model empowers local municipalities and utilities to be independent while providing them with reliable, sustainable water.
03:26
Q: What are the biggest challenges municipalities and businesses face with water scarcity?
Henry J. Charrabé:
Inertia. The "old boys' network." The industry is stuck in the mindset of "this is how we've always done things." That resistance to change makes it hard for decentralized models to gain traction. There's a lot of re-education required.
For municipalities, the challenge is sourcing reliable treatment. For industries, whether it's semiconductors, power, or food and beverage, water is essential infrastructure. Without a water plan, you can’t build a plant. We help by offering off-balance-sheet financing and partnering closely to optimize outcomes.
04:39
Q: Can you share a real-world example of your impact on a community?
Henry J. Charrabé:
Sure. In Texas, we’ve done long-term water service agreements with the City of Alice and the South Texas Water Authority. We provide brackish water treatment, helping them combat drought and high-cost centralized systems. This independence also enables them to resell water to industrial clients.
We’ve also done significant work in the Caribbean, Panama, and Peru. Our systems have provided reliable water that supports both sustainability and economic growth.
05:48
Q: Your team secured major desalination projects in Aruba, Antigua, and Curaçao. What does this signal about demand for decentralized water solutions?
Henry J. Charrabé:
Yes, we won bids in Curaçao and Aruba and built several plants in Antigua. These wins prove our strength as a fully integrated provider. Most companies either build or finance, but not both. We do both, in-house. This makes us more competitive and able to deliver unmatched value.
07:09
Q: What trends are you seeing in water reuse and desalination?
Henry J. Charrabé:
The trend is toward outsourcing. Municipalities and industries are focusing on their core missions and letting experts handle water. It's similar to what happened in oil and gas or power, outsourced service contracts became the norm. Water is finally catching up, and we're at the forefront of that transition.
08:12
Q: How do you approach marketing and building trust with decision-makers?
Henry J. Charrabé:
All water is local. Despite being an international company backed by Morgan Stanley, trust must be built locally. These are sensitive infrastructure projects, and you need boots on the ground, strong relationships, and time. Our new leadership team has focused on rebuilding the company and our business development pipeline. That’s now starting to pay off.
09:30
Q: What communication strategies have been most effective for your diverse stakeholders?
Henry J. Charrabé:
We maintain a flat organization and challenge the status quo. “We’ve always done it this way” is poison. We encourage internal and external stakeholders to ask why and push boundaries. That mindset allows us to improve continuously and stay ahead of the curve.
10:51
Q: Are there common misconceptions about desalination or decentralized systems?
Henry J. Charrabé:
Absolutely. People often believe desalination is environmentally unfriendly, but if you manage the brine discharge correctly, it’s not. You can even reuse it for non-potable needs like flushing and irrigation.
Another misconception is that decentralized solutions are too expensive. If structured well, they can be more cost-effective and flexible than centralized models.
12:08
Q: How is climate change affecting demand for water-as-a-service?
Henry J. Charrabé:
We don’t have a weather crisis, we have a water crisis. Too much water where we don’t need it, not enough where we do. Climate change is creating new areas of need. Even places like Italy are considering desalination. In the U.S., brackish aquifers are now essential water sources. Decentralized water-as-a-service is part of the solution.
13:22
Q: What role should private investment play in future water infrastructure?
Henry J. Charrabé:
A huge one. Public-private partnerships are essential. Municipalities rarely have surplus cash. Federal and state funds can cover core infrastructure, but private capital can help build, finance, and maintain advanced water systems. That’s how we stretch dollars and accelerate progress.
14:23
Q: What have you learned about scaling sustainable water solutions?
Henry J. Charrabé:
It takes time and patience, two things I’m not naturally great at. But the key lesson is to outwork the competition, go the extra mile, listen better, and never settle. There’s no “win-win” unless both the customer and provider find mutual value.
15:28
Q: What advice would you give municipalities or businesses considering decentralized water?
Henry J. Charrabé:
Evaluate options based on future needs, not past practices. Our model works because no one loses: municipalities get reliable water, we deliver returns to investors, and everyone benefits. If you compare it fairly, you'll see it's often the best choice.
16:39
Q: What are key factors to consider when choosing a water-as-a-service provider?
Henry J. Charrabé:
Look at cost per cubic meter and available financing. Compare timelines. Water issues become urgent fast, so planning is critical. We offer a comprehensive package, engineering, financing, maintenance, with proven results. With over 230 systems, we have a depth of experience others can’t match.
18:10
Q: What can local governments do today to ensure long-term water resilience?
Henry J. Charrabé:
Start planning now. Political cycles don’t match infrastructure timelines. Leaders must identify needs early, explore viable providers, and act decisively. If not, they’ll face emergencies with limited options, and citizens don’t want to hear excuses when water runs out.
19:21
Q: How do you see the water industry evolving over the next 5–10 years?
Henry J. Charrabé:
I hope we see more innovation in business models than in tech. Water-as-a-service is key. We need more direct access between providers and municipalities, with accountability built in. Decentralization will grow, especially in rural and suburban areas.
21:04
Q: Are there any exciting innovations or projects ahead for Seven Seas?
Henry J. Charrabé:
Yes. We don’t do R&D in the traditional sense, we focus on business model innovation. We use proven RO tech, cartridges, and filters but integrate them into a standardized, robust design. We're renegotiating existing contracts and growing our pipeline. 2024 has been a strong execution year, not just an inflection point.
22:14
Q: What’s the one thing you want listeners or viewers to take away from this conversation?
Henry J. Charrabé:
On a personal level, work hard, stay grounded in your values. Success may take longer that way, but it’s more sustainable. From a business perspective, if you need water or wastewater treatment and don’t want to pay upfront, contact us. We’re also hiring, so if you’re an engineer looking for purpose, we’d love to hear from you.
23:27
Dunya Jovanovic:
That’s a wrap. Henry, thank you for being our guest on the Green New Perspective podcast.
Henry J. Charrabé:
Thank you for having me.