Arctic Ice Project's CEO on using reflective glass beads to slow Arctic ice loss and why the nonprofit simplified its language to explain its science.
About this episode
00:06
Welcome to Green New Perspective, your gateway to a sustainable future. I'm your host, Dunja Jovanovic, and today we have another guest from the cleantech space with us.
Please join me in welcoming Annette Eros, the Chief Executive Officer of the Arctic Ice Project.
The Arctic Ice Project is an NGO on a mission to preserve Arctic ice and combat climate change. Their unique technology, involving small hollow glass beads strategically placed over the ice, boosts its reflectivity and counteracts the effects of warming oceans.
In this episode, we’ll explore the science behind this groundbreaking approach, the challenges they face, and the potential impact it can have on mitigating climate change.
So join us as we uncover the synergy of science, sustainability, and human determination, and discover how the Arctic Ice Project is reshaping our approach to climate change.
01:00
Hello Annette, and thank you for joining us on the Green New Perspective podcast.
01:05
Thank you.
01:11
Q: Can you tell us more about what you do and about the Arctic Ice Project’s mission to slow down climate change?
01:19
Yeah, for sure. We are a nonprofit committed to stabilizing the global climate. One of the reasons we focus on the Arctic is because it plays such a crucial role in climate change, both in terms of the rate and the inevitability of where we end up.
For example, the Arctic is currently warming four times faster than the rest of the planet. Just a few years ago, we thought it was warming twice as fast, so that acceleration is already beyond what we expected.
We all know greenhouse gases are the main contributor to climate change, but recent reports indicate that ice-free summers in the Arctic could be inevitable as early as the 2030s. During those summers, when the sun shines 24 hours a day, there might be no sea ice at all. If we get to that point, the Arctic could contribute 25% to global warming, with greenhouse gases responsible for the other 75%. That means the Arctic is the second-largest contributor to global warming, and most people don't realize that.
For years, we thought the melting in the Arctic was just a symptom of climate change, but what we now know is that it’s actually contributing to it. There’s a feedback loop: the warmer it gets, the more ice melts, and the more warming it causes.
04:45
That’s why we focus on the Arctic, it’s Earth's most effective natural heat shield. The ice reflects solar energy back into the atmosphere. That balance worked for decades, but now, with less ice, more solar energy is absorbed into the ocean instead, which further destabilizes everything.
There’s very little work being done specifically on the Arctic. Many groups are working on ocean health, but without the Arctic ice, we’re losing our best chance to manage global temperature. The 2030s are not a distant future, they’re just a few years away. This isn’t about future generations. This is us.
05:17
Q: What kind of technologies is the Arctic Ice Project developing to slow down climate change and Arctic ice melt?
05:23
Sea ice typically reflects 30 to 80% of sunlight. This is called the Albedo effect, and it’s critical for reflecting solar energy. But ocean water absorbs 95% of sunlight. So if we lose Arctic sea ice, that feedback cycle just keeps accelerating.
We’re especially focused on protecting young ice, which forms within a year. Unlike older, thicker ice, young ice absorbs more heat. And with 24-hour sunlight in the Arctic during summer, it’s incredibly vulnerable.
Our solution uses tiny hollow glass beads made of silica, the same material as sand. They’re finer than a strand of hair but highly reflective, bouncing up to 60% of sunlight away. By spreading a thin layer of these beads on young ice, we can help it survive the summer, gain thickness and reflectivity in the winter, and stand a better chance of surviving year to year.
We’ve proven this concept in lab and small field studies, and it’s one of the most promising mitigation strategies we’ve seen. It’s safe, controllable, cost-effective, and the cost of not doing it is already becoming painfully clear.
08:42
Q: I've read that your project could buy us up to 15 more years to decarbonize. Is that accurate?
08:47
Yes, we believe this is a critical tool in the climate fight. While we don’t have evidence that our approach can reverse climate change, we can significantly reduce the Arctic’s contribution to global warming. If we can delay ice-free summers, we can buy 10, 15, maybe even 20 years of extra time.
Our current focus is on safety and efficiency, running climate modeling and simulations to determine the best deployment strategies, where and how much material to use, and how to get the most effect from the least amount of product.
We’re also conducting ecotoxicology studies to ensure we’re not harming the environment. So far, tests from microorganisms up to fish have shown that the materials are safe, which is incredibly encouraging.
12:14
Q: How do you plan to actually deploy the beads in the Arctic?
12:19
Great question, and we’re still developing the best method. We definitely don’t want to use fuel-burning planes for deployment. We’re exploring options like electric ships, and possibly drones, especially since electric marine vessels are being developed in Norway. Whatever method we use must be environmentally responsible.
We’re in the middle of a five-year technology plan, and deployment strategy is a key part of it.
14:23
Q: Have you had the opportunity to collaborate with other organizations or partners to achieve your goals?
14:28
Yes, collaboration is a huge part of our work. A couple of years ago, we shifted from doing all the research ourselves to partnering with experts. For example, we work with SINTEF in Norway on lab safety testing, they're Arctic specialists.
NASA Ames donated supercomputer time for our climate modeling, which is a massive value. Our scientific advisory board is made up of volunteers, leading scientists and Arctic experts who regularly guide our strategy.
Funding so far has come from community donations, foundations, and groups like Spectrum Impact in India. We’re based in Silicon Valley, and many local donors have helped us get to where we are today.
19:12
Q: I can imagine you’ve faced challenges communicating this technology to people outside the cleantech space. How have you approached those conversations?
19:23
It’s definitely a challenge. On the one hand, people are intrigued by how novel the concept is. But getting from "wow" to real support takes time. The fact that we have proof of concept helps.
One of our biggest challenges is that very few people focus on the Arctic, so it’s not where funding usually goes. We’ve had to educate people on just how important the Arctic’s role is in regulating global climate, and that’s been a surprise for many.
23:01
Q: Are you planning any awareness campaigns to help people understand the urgency in the Arctic?
23:05
Absolutely. We consider education part of our core mission. We’re creating videos, simplifying our messaging, and sharing articles and resources to help people understand not just what we’re doing, but why it matters.
And honestly, many people support us because it gives them hope. This isn’t a solution that will take 20 years, it’s something that could make a difference within a year or two.
26:05
Q: Since we’re a marketing agency, I have to ask, has marketing helped you spread your message?
26:12
Marketing is just as important as the science. We've started shifting resources toward communication, making things clearer and easier to understand, while staying true to the science.
We recently hired a digital media expert to improve our social channels and website. We're working hard to translate this complex science into accessible messaging. That’s crucial for building support, reaching policymakers, and eventually handing this off to a government or multilateral organization for deployment.
29:47
Q: How do you communicate your mission and how has that changed over time?
29:51
Our goal isn't to deploy this ourselves long term. We're trying to get this to a point where it's fully validated, clearly explained, and ready for someone like a nation-state, military, or global consortium to take over and implement.
We’re learning how to frame this in terms of security, not just climate, especially when talking with politicians. Reframing it this way can open doors that otherwise stay closed.
35:22
Q: What are your future plans and projects to further the mission of the Arctic Ice Project?
35:27
Our focus remains on executing our five-year tech plan, which we estimate will cost $20–30 million. If we can raise funds faster, we can cut that timeline down and get this solution deployed sooner.
We're committed to staying focused on the Arctic. This approach has global implications, and it gives us hope that meaningful change is still possible.
38:28
Annette, thank you again for your time and this lovely conversation. I truly wish you all the best with your project.
38:34
Thank you. I'm rooting for it too. Let's get more people involved!
39:30
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